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911, Emergency Or Conspiracy
Filed Under (Question Time, The Secret) by Ian Richardson on 11-09-2008
It’s time for me to throw the cat among the pigeons. I rarely do something like this but a few things have come to my attention and I want to see your opinion and thoughts on these matters because I think it’s healthy for people to discuss this instead of me (and millions of others) just relying on what the “Press” has to “Say” about it.
I remember the day I was sitting at my computer chatting with a friend online when they told me to turn the TV on. I asked, “Which channel?”, to which I thought the reply of “It won’t matter” was a strange reply. To my disbelief I saw news reports of a plane that had hit one of the World Trade Centre Towers. My first thought was that I had the wrong channel and I was watching another movie like the first Die Hard, or another episode of Lone Gunmen which actually aired an episode on March 4, 2001 depicting a very similar scenario.
Clip from Lone Gunmen Episode 1: Pilot, Aired on March 4, 2001. Written By: Chris Carter, Vince Gilligan, John Shiban, and Frank Spotnitz Directed By: Rob Bowman Copyright: XFiles/21st Century FOX. All Rights Reserved.
Then there was this that came out after the event which a lot of people haven’t/didn’t see which raises a few more questions.
Many people find it extremely difficult to understand how the events of 911 could have been kept from top officials in the government. Is it possible that there was a conspiracy or was the United States just to confident in their own status of security around the world to notice what was going on right under their nose? The idea of a conspiracy theory is definitely not one people want to believe in but you have to admit some of the things in question make you wonder.
Why weren’t United States fighter planes in the air immediately after the first plane hit the Twin Towers? They are trained for these types of events so why didn’t that instruction take immediate action? Part of the conspiracy theory is that pilots and their commanders were paid off. Remember that the terrorists had a well funded plan of attack so they would have had plenty to buy off people in the United States.
There are rumours that the United States allowed it to happen as a wake up call for citizens. It made them realise that more funding needs to be put in place for military practices. Since nothing major had been taking place many on the government were being pressured to cut military spending.
There are plenty that definitely believe the United States government did have some knowledge that such terrorist attacks were going to take place. However, they didn’t believe them and choose not to take action. This is information they don’t want to get out because it undermines the credibility of the government and the military. There is also a believe that members of the terrorist movement are inside of the government facilities as employees.
The events of 911 are among the most devastating in the history of the United States. It is hard to believe those responsible for protecting the country would let such destruction take place. There is still a great deal of healing and rebuilding that needs to be done years later. Any type of conspiracy that may have been involved though will be almost impossible to uncover. You have to realise the impact such evidence would have on society. Those that would be involved in any such conspiracy have too much to lose by leaking information.
If you are a person like me who doesn’t take everything they see on TV or read in the newspapers as being the definite “TRUTH” and like to look for other information and evidence so you can come to your own conclusions about things then you may be interested in seeing this.
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How dare you run some tripe about a 9-11 conspiracy! I am a retired federal security specialist and there was no conspiracy. We were attacked by Islamic extremists and continue to be threatened by them. You are taking advantage of an AMERICAN tragedy to get people to your site today. You should be ashamed of yourself.
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Melanie Reply:
May 25th, 2009 at 5:04 am
I agree! My brother-in-law risked his life to save one of his men from a road-side bomb in Iraq! This kind of XXXX XXXXXX me off! You are SO damned lucky to live where you do! Do you EVEN know that? You have the right to spout from an obviously uneducated black hole, and no one will rape or mame you for it! In my opinion, the US is too kind. People like you should be dropped off in Iraqi insergent camps, or in the Sudan! We should let you learn the hard way how to love America, you ingrate! You are not only the biggest waste of taxpayer dollars, but a waste of oxygen!
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Christy Bleicher Reply:
June 10th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
Maybe I’m reading your post wrong? Do you agree with what I said or are you saying I am a waste of taxpayer dollars? You see, I worked very hard on a fixed salary. People whom work in my specialty normally put in more than 80 hours over 2 weeks. We stay until the job at hand is done.
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For those unwilling or unable to think critically, it is easier to believe a lie than a truth. Unfortunately, that covers the majority of people. Governments know this and the news media knows this and use it to advance their agendas.
Why haven’t the mainstream media questioned how a sick guy in a cave was able to outwit all the billion dollar funded security and defence agencies of the US Government and have some guys with no training on flying sophisticated aircraft crash them with precision accuracy into three buildings? The fact that convinces me that the caveman did not do it (he actually said he wasn’t involved) is Bush and Cheney blocking a full public enquiry into 9/11. Why? Wouldn’t any government find it imperative to find out how the hijackers carried out their plans, how they got past security at the airports, why the US air defence forces were sleeping on the job, how three buildings fell into their own footprints (surely, a statistical impossibility?) etc. etc.? Questions that need to be answered so that the tragic events do not happen again. Why hasn’t the main stream media been demanding such an investigation instead of branding anyone who queries the official line a conspiracy theorist? If there is nothing to hide, why deny a full investigation? Duh! (To those who accept the official line, you may be right to do so and I would like to be one of your number but so far I have seen no convincing answers to all the troubling questions about 9/11.)
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Melanie Reply:
May 25th, 2009 at 5:13 am
The sick guy in the “cave” was actually in a castle at the time. Watch National Geographic. Osama Bin Laden did NOT orchestrate 9/11. He only funded it. However, the reason for 9/11 was for Bin Laden’s approval. This is NOT a gov’t conspiracy, nor is it a war. This is a much bigger issue to them… they believe this “religious” crap! The buildings fell due to the incredible amount of jet fuel. Jet fuel is ignitable with a simple flick, not the kind with a cigarette lighter. The beams inside the building were fireproofed, but that is only a 1/2 inch coating that is easily burnt in one hour. They are made to incorporate a small indoor fire, not an explosion. I find it hard to believe that the US gov’t hired these men who had Islamic ties (that have been proven), and orchestrated the attacks just to blow up the world trade center. You have been watching way too much James Bond. Have a little sympathy for the people who lost loved ones. They deserve respect! You LIVE here…. YOU benefit…. take responsibility, or get out!
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Thanks for the post.
I have tried to discuss 911 events with others, but my patriotism is questioned. The stated facts are not.
I believed the government’s account of events until now. Testimony of surviving firefighters changed my my mind.
There is a video on my latest post for anyone who is interested.
Kermits last blog post..Questions About 911
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For those of you who think I was trying to take ‘advantage’ of a tragedy, I wasn’t. I thought it would be more relevant to post something of this nature on the anniversary of the day in which it happened. Haven’t you see magazines release “Special Issues” of things like Lady Diana on the anniversary of her death? In these cases their motivation is $$$ (as usual). My motivation was simply to create some thought and discussion, whether it be here on my blog, or in a gathering of people on the street. Either way, discussing these things is healthy and looking at other possibilities open the mind.
As others have commented above. There ARE questions about what happened that even the people in power don’t seem to want to answer and avoid at all cost…. WHY?
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i think i’ll come down on the side of emergency. what i do feel, however, is that there were many missed opportunities to prevent the tragedy. and these flaws in the system were pointed out later by the 9-11 commission. unfortunately, i don’t feel that several years later, the united states has been made that much safer from this type of attack.
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i just can hardly believe that 9/11 could be a conspiracy….
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I do not think there any wrong in asking these questions here and no ones patriotism should ever be called into question for doing so
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Tenjacks,
Duh…most of the things you bring up have been answered publicly. By an independent commission. Get out of your cave. There are things which cannot be “put out there for the public” due to national security concerns. When you know what you’re talking about and can back it up with facts, instead of following some flight of fancy conspiracy theory…you know what? I come from a proud family whom have all served this country since its inception to defend the rights of nuts like you. Go on and live in your “we are out to get us” world. Thank God there are those of us to protect your right to do so.
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Christy,
Thank you for your service as a federal security specialist.
I don’t find this easy to re-hash either. I used to think this was a rather kooky subject myself.
I don’t have a theory. I have questions. Maybe we should not ask them.
I did not think they were worth asking until I heard the firefighters talk about some things that they saw that day at WTC.
Do you think these guys are unpatriotic? Have all of their questions been answered?
Do you think a former Navy SEALS like Jesse Ventura is threatening security by asking some of these questions?
Has anyone explained why steel girders melted one hundred stories below the planes? How is explaining something like that a security issue? Jet fuel is mostly kerosene and does not burn hot enough to melt that much steel.
Where is the answer to that question?
What independent study was done? Are you talking about the 911 Commission Report?
Also, why did the firefighters discover a pool of extremely hot molten metal under the ground on building 7? Is there any precedent for this? Look at the videos. It was never hit by a plane. I did not see much of a fire, either. Airplanes did not even hit this building.
Where is the answer to that question? Is this a security issue?
Why did the buildings fall in a symmetrical pattern? All THREE of them? Don’t structures that fail usually collapse at the weakest point? They usually twist around and fall over.
Where are the answers to these questions?
I did not realize that architectural concerns are security issues.
Best Regards,
Kermits last blog post..Questions About 911
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Mr ex federal security specialist, come back to this blog when you can make intelligent comments without recourse to personal invective. As Kermit says, we have questions that have not been answered satisfactorily. If you believe the official line, that’s okay by me. And if others don’t believe it, that should be okay too, shouldn’t it? It’s a free country and freedom of thought is allowed, isn’t it? That’s what you’ve been defending for ‘nuts’ like me, right?
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Thank you for the thoughtful and accurate post. Aside from the expected debunkers and trolls, most people display their outrage at such a possibility out of fear–terror, that such a thing is not only possible and repeated, but also perpetrated by those in whom we have placed our trust. It is a dire proposition.
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It’s “Mrs.” federal security specialist. I can back up my expertise…military, law enforcement and federal security. Actually, only about 600 people in the world have the federal security training I have. We do what we do because we do believe in your rights. You believe what you want to believe but when you watch something put out there that is going to make someone money…such as movies, conspiracy books and reports, etc., plus the magic of computer generation today…take that with a grain of salt. Maybe it’s just too hard for you to believe that there are people and groups (Bin Laden is actually a millionaire Saudi) that want to destroy our way of life. Maybe it’s easier to believe there’s some big government conspiracy…but, you remember to thank every cop, firemen, SOLDIER for defending your right to question that same government they take oaths to defend. Is that intelligent enough for you bud?
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Maybe if we did not go around destroying their way of life in order to grab their resources they would not be so eager to destroy ours. And I’m not referring only to the Islamists.
“This country is only 200 years old, and already we’ve had ten major wars. We average a major war every twenty years, So we’re good at it!
And it’s just as well we are, because we’re not very good at anything else. Can’t build a decent car anymore. Can’t make a TV set, a cell phone, or a VCR worth a fark. Got no steel industry left. No textiles. Can’t educate our young people. Can’t get health care to our old people.
But we can bomb the shiat out of your country, all right. We can bomb the shiat out of your country!” – George Carlin.
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We grab their resources and destroy their way of life? Are you a fucking idiot? I’m pissed at you now, you little ********, probably living with your mother and can’t get a date or have any friends and don’t even have a job, ******, socialist prick! Let me tell you what we do for these countries.
We go in when they cry for help…we bleed for them. We die for them. Then we rebuild their countries and don’t get a fucking thing in return except a kick in the ass and a “you didn’t do enough”. I personally believe we should let them all fight it out and let them all die…every ******* one of them. They don’t deserve the American blood that’s spilled for them.
Our soldiers come home with scars you can’t see. Scars that will never heal. But, they are turned away from the VA due to money issues. You know why? Because some liberal, left-wing prick (like you) decided our money should go to to some “social cause”…that’s code for “left-wing, liberal agenda cause”.
George Carlin? Whew…I’m ******* impressed. You idiot. He was a dope smoking liberal who never served his country. We are the most generous, we have the most ingenuity, the most industry, the most educated and the best health care system in the world. Hands down. Our stuff is stolen daily. I guess you’ve never heard of industrial spies. People come from all over the world for our services. I guess you didn’t know that? Get out of your cave, you little twit, like I told you before.
Grow up. When you are an expert in something…let me know. I, however, am an expert. You bet we’ve been in major wars and we are very good at fighting…we have the best military in the world. We kill with a purpose and goal. We fight for democracy. A billion people cry for that one thing every day. When we are needed, we go.
We are the only country to ever have been able to hold it in our individual hands and hearts. And, people like me took an oath to defend your right (if you are an American) to say and believe what you want. I take that oath seriously you little prick. But, I have that same right.
I’ll probably get kicked off here for this post. I guess what happens just happens. But, I’ve never run from anything. I’m an American and I am proud of that. There are billions of people who wish they could say that…does that tell you how bad we are?
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I had to edit the above comment because I do not allow swearing on my blog. I don’t mind people debating a topic, that is why I posted what I did, to simply raise questions and have people debate about what I presented.
Christy, I do not mind you making comments and raising issues to support your argument, but please keep it civil. Why not support your argument with references to other information that can be found on the Internet. Also please do not make personal comments about people you do not know personally, whether it be true or not. A point can be made without making personal and derogatory comments about someone.
I know this topic raises a lot of emotions in people, but that doesn’t give us the right to have a go at someone personally.
Please keep the comments on topic and if possible try to reference material either on the Internet or somewhere else that people can refer to.
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Mrs “federal security specialist” yours is the funniest tirade I’ve ever read. I nearly died laughing. And you took an oath to defend and say what I want? Are you kidding me? Perhaps the oath only relates to ‘free speech cages’ that are so popular in the ‘land of the free’ these days.
I agree with you that we should not be dying for these people. So let’s stop destroying their countries in order to rebuild them. Use the trillion dollars thus saved to re-build America’s crumbling infrastructure, – see http://www.asce.org/reportcard/2005/states.cfm
– provide health insurance to the 45 million Americans without it, allow the US government to keep to its promise to take care of the health needs of wounded veterans etc etc. All good socialist, pinko liberal, leftist, or whatever label you wish to give it, policies that all good governments who care about their people should undertake.
But Mrs ‘expert’ I don’t suppose you can take off those dark security glasses long enough to see the truth. Some people just can’t handle the truth.
Looking forward to your next hilarious diatribe.
PS to Ian: I agree completely with your comments. It is an emotional and controversial topic but discussions should not be acrimonious and personally offensive.
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I don’t wear “rose colored glasses” or any other color glasses. I have been out in the real world and I know how it works. Our money doesn’t go where it’s needed because we have people in congress whom are more concerned about our “world image” than our own people. That’s why our money goes overseas. Another fact you overlook on people without healthcare coverage…they have their “bling” and big car, IPods and fancy cell phones and refuse to pay for insurance and some of those counted are illegal aliens. But, yes, there are those who do need help and I believe we should help those people. Americans should come first over anyone else.
The USA is the only country in the world to hold on to democracy and give its people the freedoms and individual rights you claim are clamped down. What a crock! There are blogs, magazines, newspapers, etc. which scream against our government every day and they are not shut down. Why? Because of the freedom granted by our constitution. Keep that in mind while you rave how horrible we are.
I am a conservative and proud of my country. I took an oath to defend the constitution and this country. Once you do that, it stays with you. You see things and understand why this country is so special. We, the people, have the right to change things. So, you want things to be different? Use your right to vote. There are billions of people in the world who will never have that right. Write your congressman and senator or local paper.
Now I’m done with this because you will believe we are horrible no matter what. You apparently don’t see the good we do. We are #1 in the world for humanitarian relief efforts no matter where the need. We give and give. It is our nature…we are Americans. We give, we go where needed when called. When something happens and you need help, I just bet it will be an Amaerican that comes to you in your hour of need.
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I don’t understand how talking about how good or bad our country is will explain how three(!) huge buildings fell to the ground perfectly in their footprints. (The third building wasn’t even hit!)
I don’t understand how that will explain why the families of the Pennyslvania crash victims were not allowed to listen to the last three minutes of the voice recorder.
I don’t understand why the black box of the plane that hit the pentagon was NEVER found. They survive just about anything.
I don’t understand how flag waving or America bashing will explain anything about how steel girders 100 stories below the point of impact could melt.
I don’t understand how being liberal or conservative explains the lower level explosions the firemen were talking about. I don’t get how being a dove, hawk or chickenhawk will explain the pools of molten metal that the firemen found under ALL three buildings were at inexplicably high temperatures.
Leave the politics out of this for now. There will be plenty of that later. Let’s talk about facts instead of how proud or ashamed of our country we are!
Obviously the whole good country of the USA was not responsible for this. I don’t think liberal or conservative philosophies should have anything to do with facts.
Regards,
kermit
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Like any major event in history – there will always be many MANY questions and few to little answers.
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It seems that there are plenty of people who do not believe in the story the government gave us, yet there aren’t enough of us who can do something about it. If this is the path that US will follow in the future, then I really wonder what kind of place we are making for our children to live in.
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We are the only country to ever have been able to hold it in our individual hands and hearts. And, people like me took an oath to defend your right (if you are an American) to say and believe what you want. I take that oath seriously you little p****. But, I have that same right.
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I don’t think 9/11 was a *conscious * conspiracy by our government, for that would require two things:
1. Competence
2. Ability to keep secrets
Neither of which I believe is possible.
Our actions definitely led to the attack however, and their was surely a conscious effort to profit and power grab as a result.
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